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Nov 14, 2006

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dave lee

Anil:

Great post. My thought after reading your comments, is that whenever learning needs to be designed, then of course there will be some sort of model used. If the learning experience will happen of it's own accord, thus not needing to be designed; then why would be we involved - model or no model?

It's great to have the prestigious Tata Interactive Group involved in The Big Question! Thanks for joining the conversation.

Dave Lee, blogmeister
Learning Circuits Blog

Karl Kapp

Good discussion of the use of a model. I agree that it is the application of the model that makes a difference. The ADDIE proces is simply a design process that can be applied to many different situations such as Second Life or other "Learning 2.0" tools. I also assert that a model is generic and used for guidance but is not set in stone. Good comments Anil.

Karl Kapp

I agree with your discussion of the ADDIE model and others as generic. We can apply those model as we see fit. Yes, just because a model is presented doesn't mean we can't change or modify the model to fit a new educational situation like creation of a blog or establishing a learning event in Second Life.

Mammen

Thanks Dave and Karl for the comments. As Dave rightly pointed out, I don’t think all kinds of learning need to be designed for the learner. Active learners seek out learning not only from books, experts, and the Web but also from movies, conversations, and inanimate objects. In which case, models don’t matter. However, because formal learning is not altogether dead and is not likely to die for sometime to come, design and models have their roles to play. But the questions really are: what role will they play and how will they play it?

dave lee

It just occurred to me that one of the things I've struggled throughout this discussion has been the way we discuss these models.

What role THEY will play and how will THEY play it? I'm not picking on you, Anil. We've all done it through this discussion. We tend to anthropomorphize and generalize these methods.

Whether ADDIE, ISD, or HPT have a future depends on how we use them. If we think of them as "course generation machines," their days are numbered. But if we see them as a set of general guidelines with room for interpretation, they can serve us well for years to come.

As you said in your original post, Anil. The key is how WE utilize these tool in a specific situation and how adapt them for new situations.

Mammen

Completely agree with you. That anthropomorphism just slipped out even without my knowing it. Language most often leads us towards absurd traps. (Here's another one: "Language leads us".) The intent was: “In what role will we use “them” and how will we use “them”? The moment we try to resist the objectification of a model, it already acquires the form of an object. But resist we must.

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